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Abusing eBay DocsQualityCars MC999

Posted: January 22nd, 2006, 3:20 pm
by Doc
eBay was Infested With Scammers back in 2004. Fraud was Rampart but CEO Meg Whitman kept pocketing the profits. Not much has changed since those early eBay days. Doc was the 1st Tampa Bay area car seller to offer used cars on eBay. The fraud got so bad that buyers couldn't trust sellers. Doc was constantly complaining about the fraud on the eBay Motors Discussion Board. Rather clean up the dump they shut him up by suspending his account.

Fraud and Distrust is still a major problem for eBay Inc as of this update 10/19/19. This video was produced by Doc in 2013 while eBay gave scammers the run of the house. Late model high-line Audi, BMW, Mercedes-Benz, and other premium cars for sale by alleged scammers at 1/4 of their market value. Buyers were swindled out of thousands!

Dear docsqualitycars.

We regret to inform you that your eBay account has been suspended due to concerns we have for the safety and integrity of the eBay community.

"Abusing eBay" of the eBay User Agreement states, in part:

"...we may limit, suspend, or terminate our service and user accounts, prohibit access to our website, remove hosted content, and take technical and legal steps to keep users off the Site if we think that they are creating problems, possible legal liabilities, or acting inconsistently with the letter or spirit of our policies." .

Due to the suspension of this account, please be advised you are prohibited from using eBay in any way including registering a new account.

Please note that any seller fees due to eBay will immediately become due and payable. eBay will charge any amounts you have not previously disputed to the billing method currently on file.


Safeharbor Department
eBay, Inc.

Posted: January 22nd, 2006, 7:28 pm
by MidoriMeadows
Honey, no blowing another vein. Too much blood loss makes other things not work.

Posted: January 22nd, 2006, 8:31 pm
by Doc
I think they killed that listing knowing i would go nuts!

Bill Cobb sure has Thin Skin!!

Posted: January 22nd, 2006, 9:45 pm
by MidoriMeadows
I think they did too. I wonder when my day comes. I don't mince words on EBM and stores boards. Somehow I've only been slapped once cause I told someone to go F**k himself. Other than that they never get on me. Maybe its cause I'm soooooo hot.

Posted: January 22nd, 2006, 9:58 pm
by JR
Why am I not surprised at what eBay has done. I do believe eBay and Cornhole Cobb owes you an apology. You are a thorn in their side and you push their buttons for their stupidity and errors they make. I say turn the screws in a little more.

Doc, quit getting worked up over it and take care of your health. I too would be pissed at what they've done, but your health is much more important than getting upset over the bullshit games they are playing with you.

Stay away from the site for a few days and take care of yourself.


Posted: January 22nd, 2006, 11:15 pm
by MidoriMeadows
Can't have sex if you blow a fuse.

Posted: January 23rd, 2006, 7:03 pm
by Bill
mopar-of-newark (16 ) View Listings | Report Jan-22-06 10:20 PST 30 of 32
Doc shouldn't let ebay to him like that. ebay is only temporary anyhow, their attitude towards those lining their pockets will eventually be their demise.

Just think back to how many #1 companies have gone belly up for the same reason. I remember when Gimbels and Macy's were the big boys, now Walmart's shutting everyone else down; Not so long ago Prudential was largest insurance company in the world, and Bell Telephone was the only game in town.

I think ebay could use some serious competition! Maybe if say Overstocked opened a motors category ebay wouldn't be so arrogant. They might be forced to initiate for them a new concept called customer care.

Posted: January 23rd, 2006, 8:13 pm
by Doc
I thank all of you for stopping by..

This situation is probably for the best. All i know is, The stress builds up dealing with eBay and it keeps building up with each dumb offer i get on a nice car! I usually ignore them but it still builds up! Then take something like them cancelling my listing (while i was attempting to add a buy now) with the customer sitting at his computer waiting to close the listing out! It all just came exploding out! You can't pick up a phone and call someone! Deal with all their canned response form letters, etc!

When i got that reply from Bill Cobb really exploded! And don't think i have ever been so mad in my life! The rest is eBay history, I still think they used it as an excuse to get rid of me! Two wrongs don't make a right! But this has been building up inside me for a long time! The President of the company showed his immaturity as did i! We were both wrong, but it is for the best!

I think i will add some movie channels to my cable, get a nice recliner and relax when i get home. Maybe someone with some serious doe will want to start a quality & secure trading venue for cars, and hire me as a consultant..

Please stop by any time, i consider you all my friends! And feel free to use this board to vent without the fear of getting suspended by eBay!

Posted: January 23rd, 2006, 10:37 pm
by MidoriMeadows
You were right hon. They just slapped me for my pussy thread. Do I htink I'm next. Who knows. Maybe. I know they watch and see my id's. You could always tels it's me so I doubt I can hide. I just keep building my clientelle and hope they follow me off ebay.

No getting worked up baby. You know I always love you along with a lot of other people.

Posted: January 23rd, 2006, 11:34 pm
by tony1963
Well Doc, you came along on eBay shortly after I did and saw the same things going on over the years as did I.

As far as I am concerned, you are a cornerstone of eBay Motors and the treatment that you received from Corn Cobb is downright awful.

My guess is that after a while, they'll reopen your account. I'd suggest writing a letter directly to Meg and state your case. Corn Cobb has no reason to treat you this way.

Posted: January 24th, 2006, 1:38 pm
by little_bank_robber
Hello Doc,

Brianna2001 here from the EBM board. I am one of the 'lurkers', but I really enjoyed reading your posts over there.

Sorry to hear all that happened to you. You're a great guy and I for one will sorely miss you over there.

Here's to good health, and great sales!


Posted: January 24th, 2006, 11:06 pm
by MidoriMeadows
Hi Sweetie,

How ya doing? I'm off to the Beach on Fri. Don't know if that's good or not since I'm only 30 miles from Leon. I'm dumping the last of his stuff up at his office. I have to be done.

I'm feeling ok though. It was really sunny and cold today. I had a bunch of sales when I got home including a guy who called the city offices here to see if they could help him find me. They emailed me, I called and made a decent sale. Guy just doesn't know how to buy from the internet or email. Sold another case to another guy and a smaller one to another. Was a pretty good hour there.

This weather makes we want to run nekkid through a field of flower or on a sandy beach. But... the rain is supposed to come back tomorrow. Be thinking of you and all your sunny beach. I'll have to come and run nekkid on your beach some day.

Posted: January 25th, 2006, 7:29 am
by Doc
Hey Baby.. Hope you have a great weekend!

If you come down here and run naked on the beach, I will catch ya :)

I once did it 30ft under in scuba gear.. Oh.. what a feeling!

I'm due for a couple of days off, would enjoy going to the Keys for a weekend.. It is to humid and hot in the summer!

Posted: January 25th, 2006, 2:20 pm
by j-ainc
Hey Doc, finally found you! Sharon's been talking about running naked in the pastures all week, I think she just needs to do it and get it out of her system!

See now if you guys were as tranquil and reserved as I am 8) You would never get pink slapped :roll:

I agree with the rest though! Man it's not worth it getting all worked up! Take care of yourself, your health is #1. I'll stop back by.


Posted: January 25th, 2006, 8:13 pm
by MidoriMeadows
Man, someone's got a hard on for me. The princess got slapped for mentioning the slap. Geez. Can't have any fun anymore.

Maybe I'll run on the beach nekkid. It's probably awful cold though. Maybe I should go see Doc and run nekkid. He might have a heart attack trying to catch me though. That might not be so good.

Posted: January 25th, 2006, 8:14 pm
by notspock
Being suspended by Ebay, is a lot like getting fired from a strawberry picking job.

For those of you not familar with picking strawberrys.....I'll put it in automotive terms.

.... sorta like losing the new car sales manager job at a Daewoo Store.

On another note I saw the new Audi R-10 test runs yesterday. It is a TDI. Looks fast, no noise....just makes a swish as it goes by. I guess that is the turbo noise.

Posted: January 25th, 2006, 8:27 pm
by MidoriMeadows
Is it that much better underwater? I mean, it's pretty good not underwater.

notspock is right, for you, ebay doesn't do much anyway. Most of your money gets made elsewhere with a lot less headaches. Me on the other hand. I guess I have to behave so they don't can me. Right now I can't afford it. Guess I can't have anymore fun. I'm surprised I haven't been slapped for the llama song, you know, furry animals and all.

Posted: January 25th, 2006, 8:58 pm
by Doc
Hi Everyone.. I have chilled out quite a bit.. The blood is flowing elsewhere now 8)

Yes Sharon that ding it under was great! eMail me your virgin princess logo, i will install it as an avitar for you..

I am sure eBay was looking for a reason to can me! They can't stand me, but as long as i didnt violate the rules there was not much they could hae done!

I sent Cobb over to Disney.. Hehehehe..

Posted: January 25th, 2006, 9:43 pm
by MidoriMeadows
Thanks Doc!

OK so Bill is Disney? yeah, he does live in a dream world but still, shoulda sent him to a porno site.

Glad yer blood is rushing everywhere. Now you just gotta catch me. I'll be the one running down the beach nekkid.

Posted: January 25th, 2006, 9:55 pm
by Doc
I shouldn't have targeted him personally. Even though I'm thinking he was the one that had me suspended.

Personally he might be ok.. but if he was indeed the one that NARU'd me, he acted for eBay! That e-mail response really set me off but good!

My friend Erla in Iceland (the one i helped get her title) was shocked they did that to me over something so small! Hopefully she will join us here :)

When i think of all the money i have spent registering anti scam domains and pages it just makes me sad that eBay is still so full of scammers!!

Posted: January 25th, 2006, 10:09 pm
by MidoriMeadows
That's cause it costs money to find them. But they have time to slap me, you, and a bunch of other people for having a bit of fun. Some day it will be their downfall that they allow a lot of this stuff to go on. There will always be scammers out there but ebay seems to have an inordinate amount of them.

Posted: January 25th, 2006, 10:13 pm
by Doc
I guess it's about bed time.. 10:15 here..

Didn't sell anything today, not even a call! Hopefully tomorow will be better!

Posted: January 25th, 2006, 10:42 pm
by MidoriMeadows
I'm sure it will be Doc.

Sweet Dreams sweetie.

Posted: January 26th, 2006, 6:46 am
by notspock
Doc, I think you should send Bill to the same site you sent the seller who stole you auto transportation link.

Just relax, keep the blood pressure down. Sounds like you are selling more now, than when you were using Ebay as your primary sales method.

Posted: January 26th, 2006, 7:21 am
by Doc
I just took a tour of the EBMDG.. Special Thanks to all of you for your support!

I see the same old BS is happening! Wandrn just got a Deadbeat!

"My Vette just sold or so I thot. The winning bidder just emailed me today. Does the "car" in the link below look like a "model"? And How do you think you are buying a model, when you type in $30,000.00 for that model?

Her comments. "this was a mistake, I was looking for a model for my brother in law and we were looking at the real cars, but have no intention of buying.Sorry for any problems"

My "CAR":
Item #4605021020
This is a closed auction!"

Absolute BS!!

Posted: January 26th, 2006, 9:59 pm
by turtle-clan
Hey, I finally made it in.
Doc, If you ever need me for anything. I am just a phone call away.
The darkest hour is just before dawn.
Can you remember what we did with corn cobbs, when we were young?

Posted: January 26th, 2006, 10:34 pm
by MidoriMeadows

Noooooooo! that just disturbed me to no end!

Posted: January 26th, 2006, 11:00 pm
by witchie
roflmao the picture you used when the guy stole your tax scale for his auctions would be fitting and I could use the giggle. Not to mention Connor just about puked when I showed him the picture. He fell for it more than once too lol. I'm a naughty one what can I say?

Sharon sorry to hear you got slapped too. It is the reson I don't go on the boards much. I'm working so hard to keep my business afloat that my temper is short and my mouth ...truckers ain't got nothin on me and even a sailor would blush lately. My tolerance for stupidity is at an all time low.

Posted: January 27th, 2006, 7:29 am
by notspock

I hope that being disturbed, doesn't spoil your weekend at the beach.

Posted: January 27th, 2006, 7:39 am
by Doc
Tommy.. Glad you could join us. Let RS know where this place is..

I am seeking legal councel now.. Otherwise just plugging along! Just another day..

Posted: January 27th, 2006, 10:31 am
by JR
Hi Doc, how are you doing, hopefully better. I had planned on resuming selling on eBay this month and now those plans have been placed on hold. Reasons for not doing so are numerous, i.e. eBay's billing practices, scammers, BIN bandits, etc.

I have a lot of classic auto parts that I want to sell, but probably will wait until April and sell them at the swap meet. I do have several items that will get much better prices, if listed on eBay. I'm not in any hurry to sell, so I will wait a little longer.

But you take care of your health, don't let that place get to you. Let us know how the legal battle goes.


Posted: January 27th, 2006, 10:37 am
by MidoriMeadows
Mornin JR.

Notspock, won't ruin the weekend as long as I don't have to see it.

I got slapped yet again. Not even sure why. They sent the hate speech warning.

Ohhhhh! are we pulling out the race card! I can do that too.
My family was imprisoned by it's own govt soley because of
their race so I guess that means I should get stuff for
nothing! On top of that I'm female, you know, the
downtrodden sex. hahahahahaha. So can I say that you're
racist AND sexist? You seem to think attacking me is ok.

Not sure why saying that my family was imprisoned or that I'm female makes this a racist thing.

They like us to be free help to users but we can't even have a discussion there. Pretty soon they'll slap me for describing my pink flannel cow jammies.

Got an order to pack, truck to load, and off I go. Ya'll have a good weekend.

Posted: January 27th, 2006, 10:47 am
by Doc
JR, Why don't we start a for sale forum here? You could post stuff for sale. Might even cook up another site for selling, My webhost has a free php shopping cart i could install that is set up for PayPal. Not sure how it works but i will look into it. Also is a good place to sell small items.

Sharon you have a good time, and don't get busted for streaking down the beach.. 8)

Posted: January 28th, 2006, 8:49 am
by JR
Could try that Doc. I do not use PayPal and have no intention of using it. I do have one item that will need to go on eBay, to get the exposure and money I want out of it.

It's been really hard for me to get motivated to sell on eBay again. Usually the classic car items I sell, sell out at the local swap meet in April. My friend and I pay $15.00 for a spot, spend 8 hours selling, plus take a look around. We're going to do it again this year. After that, I will probably sell on the internet again.

Keep us informed on what you plan on doing.



Posted: January 29th, 2006, 10:16 am
by Doc
I just posted my old Benz in the for sale area..

To post an image, while in the editor creating a message you will see the BB Code buttons above. You click IMG and then paste your photo url then click IMG again to close the line.. Repeat for any other photos you want to post.

Posted: January 30th, 2006, 10:13 pm
by RS69cam777
being were in Fl. do we get to vote 2 times? 8)

Posted: January 30th, 2006, 10:19 pm
by Doc
It wont let us :evil:

Posted: March 12th, 2006, 1:27 pm
by turtle-clan
Doc, sorta looks like I will be the next to get the hatchet.
One account has already been blocked from selling.
The turtle account will be next.

I wish I could post my true feelings, but I am just trying to keep myself together right now.
I keep telling myself, "what goes around comes around".

A lot of bitter people in the world right now.

Posted: March 12th, 2006, 1:46 pm
by MidoriMeadows
Why is it they go after the greatest sellers? Lately, I've been thinking I need to be a little nicer. Until I get some stuff taken care of I need my ebay income. I've really been trying to tone down my sarcasm about ebay. Which pretty much leaves me talking about sex. Oh well. At least they'll probably just slap me around on the boards once in a while for that. Leaves me feeling rather shallow though.

I don't think ebay wants the honest ones. They expend a lot of energy assisting certain PS on the regular part of ebay that have poor service and are dishonest. Level playing field my ass. I still remember the PS who was highlighted in one of their feel good newsletters a couple years ago. When a lot of sellers started looking at his auctions they realized he was shilling all over the place. I think that was the last article they did. After about a year the highlight articles reappeared but generally they're about regular sellers who are handicapped or in some other disadvantaged group. Ummm sorta embarrasing when someone who's supposed to be a top seller is doing bad stuff.

Posted: March 12th, 2006, 2:12 pm
by turtle-clan
Sharon, my problem is a little different.
It seems I am being overly reported for "Abusing the system" or so they call it.

What it all boils down to is, I have been selling off referrals from other buyers.
To put it in better terms, selling to dealers who don't want a paper trail.

I have lots of customers who pay through pay pal, without an auction number.
Big Red Flag pops up. We know who owns pay pal.

Ending auctions early is the most reported thing.
There is nothing in Ebay rules that states, you must let the auction run the full time alotted.

When a troll gets mad at you, hang on you are in trouble.

Just an opinion, I think the same thing happened to our beloved Doc.
He was just another victim, that the trolls took down.